Many people I know who have taken the FDN course regret it on so many levels – but something glaring that will soon stand out and something folks will find it very hard to back out of, is the fact you are sunk so far in financially on joining that you can’t really back out without a huge loss which means folks then have to become ‘FDN cheerleaders’ and keep smiling and saying ‘the right things’ in the cult of Reed Davis who realistically they have to keep on side or they ‘don’t pass’ or maybe get chucked out on a whim [‘proper standing’ doesn’t mean ‘not having a criminal record’, it means not constantly paying up for memebership and further courses into the bank of Reed for your entire lifetime in addition to a hefty fee on top of every lab fee you will ever order in your lifetime!]
Someone recently was told they were not a good fit and removed from the system for merely for asking why they were being charged another $3k in addition to having paid full fees – for new labs that would cost half that, and despite having been told they could hop back in any time for $200 – ZERO INTEGRITY FDN – shame on them right there. THAT is a major integrity issue on their part, and the written evidence trail of all that exists… But it’s not the only rat you can smell:
Why would you pay a ‘lab fee’ on top of the regular lab prices, to Reed Davis & co, for every lab you ever do in ‘your practice’? Have you any idea what sort of money that is that you either have to cough up or pass on to a client who is already paying through the nose! Oh, and they ‘own’ those labs for their own data then too…including any you do going through the course…
And has anyone done a reality check on prices anywhere? Have you any perspective on the sort of prices he thinks you should be charging people…even as a ‘baby fdn’ all because he has had 11,000 orgasms, I mean labs, “so that you don’t have to’!…or whatever the number is now these days.
And go get some perspective on the prices he is now charging for his FDN course[s] – you can get a ‘real’ education for that and not a fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants type of education Mr Davis is selling.
When I went through, not only did he sound like a WWF wrestler boasting how his course kicked ass over everything else out there [the same course he now wants another $3000 for, for necessary updates…] – but even then, he spent most of the time revising everything he’d ever said in the past ‘jokingly’ but it was no joke to me because it meant the gospel he had preached in every online interview I’d heard him give at every summit over the years was WRONG – that he ‘helped people’ in spite of himself… that he was so far off facts the science eventually bit him on the ass and he shamelessly admitted that in his course without a blink – hence he keeps ‘evolving’ his course…not the normal sort of growth we should all be aiming for, but the sort of constant revision someone winging it has to put in – then pass the cost on to you for the privilege.
OMG a bit like during covid when he teamed up with a marketing partner to ‘learn’ about long covid as ‘we go along’ but the kicker was, he was charging you another $10,000 ‘to learn with them’ and be certified… LOL… well it is quite hilarious if it weren’t so serious – people joined that course for that price, ‘to be certified in long covid’ by guys admitting they hadn’t a clue – which was obvious in real time anyway as the pandemic was not even allowed be discussed in fdn, and especially as I was working with real covid doctors and practitioners at the time…and he had zero interest in that…a handful of people saving lives every day for years and he had no interest, but he would sell you a certification in it – are you joining the dots yet, because if you aren’t then maybe you would be quite happy with him!
- that course cost another $10k on top of FDN…and they admitted they ‘were learning’ and inviting you to ‘learn with them’ but you pay $10k…except folks listening to his drones every day like a cult leader somehow fell for this additional scam, …meanwhile I was working with a real covid doc and in touch with others including a famous herbalist, I wasn’t even allowed comment in the group – I could have shown him up so easily but you would never get the invitation to speak – he had no interest in covid, just selling a ‘certification’ for ‘your practice’ for another $10k…
- Neither Reed nor his course partner helped during covid – the students weren’t allowed discuss the pandemic, it was a case of carry on as normal and too bad for those who didn’t make it – geez – the only finger he lifted was a ‘like’ on the facebook page of a group of secondary-source american doctors touting the wrong dose and protocols to folks [again for a dollar] but he wouldn’t know anything about right or wrong when it came to covid or long covid yet that certification was yours for just $10,000, afterall think of how he could ‘evolve’ that course later and charge you again!
I am getting so many emails from his marketing team about how much money can be made in fdn or selling it, that I have to put this article out there right now, in good conscience, even though I have not time right now to do a bigger write up …
– but I wish there were more warnings out there for folks…something has to be said. Before I signed up there was only one article to be found and I thought it must be the exception – but no, it was not just one person…I met many others going through the course but they can’t always make a loud statement – if fact, they can’t speak at all freely…it’s that sort of group.
If you are sitting on the fence or having reservations, then listen to your gut, your intuition, get his marketing bs out of your head so you are not pushed into anything. No one would do that course unless they felt they had no options to access labs or better education – but there are so many possibilities to train properly in nutrition for a fraction of his prices…snap out of it, go offline a few days to snap out of the droning marketing and sales pitches…
And if you already got past the refund period, consider cutting your losses, calculate the longterm cost compared to getting a real qualification elsewhere…or working with someone instead of paying into his pocket all your life.
I personally know practitioners who regret going though this course, not only the wasted money, but they concluded the whole thing was such bad standards that it just gave folks enough information to make them dangerous – there are no shortcuts. Just because ‘Reed did 11000 labs’ doesn’t mean you gain anything from that at all…
When I was there he just aligning it with certain ‘board certifications’ like a pyramid scheme or scientology you had to keep paying in for the higher levels, but in the real world folks can see that for what it is and real education and scientists wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole
They used to fib that their course let you into a postgrad course in fmed, but I have the documentation from the institution stating that was not true either, from the institution they said acknowledged the fdn course geez…but we’ve seen all this before with other fmed courses, …
degree mills and in-house certifications, just like chiropractors have been doing in nutrition for years…then they wonder why no one takes them seriously…
I recently took degree level courses in Immunology and Infectious Disease with a top university, for a fraction of the cost of any of these silly courses – and it makes his bs even harder to tolerate. And similarly the chiropractors who think they can lecture folks on immunology because they read a few articles yaiyaiyai…
*This articles is for anyone whose intuition is telling them to stay clear despite the tempting promises and online glitz of the campaigns and illusion of a career with fdn…your intuition is never wrong, listen to it.
To those regretting getting in, think of cutting your losses while you can.
And to Reed and FDN, shame on you all.
Mary